806 Conquering Fear with Jill Schulman
The Terri Cole Show
Terri Cole
4.9 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 19 February 2026
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
Does fear feel like a stoplight in your head? Have you ever backed down from something important because it scared you? Today's guest, former U.S. Marine Corps Officer Jill Schulman, is here to help you rethink how you respond to fear. Listen to learn why fear is a part of bravery and you should "do it scared" instead of waiting to feel fearless.
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| 0:00.0 | Well, hello there and welcome to the Terry Cole show. I'm so glad that you are here with me. |
| 0:05.8 | I just had a very fascinating conversation with a woman named Jill Schoeman, who wrote a book called |
| 0:13.3 | The Bravery Effect, A Parable Teaching, the Science of Conquering Fear, Achieving More, and Living |
| 0:19.7 | Life to the Fulest. And I have to say, |
| 0:22.4 | it's really a fascinating book. And I love that it is all based in science. Right. So the whole thing |
| 0:31.6 | is based on how the brain works and how the amygdala works. But she's made it very accessible |
| 0:37.0 | for us to be |
| 0:39.4 | more brave. So she is a U.S. Marine Corps veteran and kind of a challenge seeker, right? |
| 0:46.2 | With, she has a master's in applied positive psychology, which is basically the science |
| 0:50.8 | of happiness and well-being. And she's been combining her skills, right? |
| 0:56.7 | It's like the latest scientific research with real-world experience to help people |
| 1:02.4 | who follow her, embrace courage, push limits, and create lives of meaning and impact. |
| 1:08.0 | So I was mesmerized by this conversation. |
| 1:10.6 | The bravery effect, the book itself, |
| 1:13.1 | is the culmination of years of work, exploration, evidence-based strategies for basically increasing |
| 1:19.9 | bravery. And I feel like the way the world is right now, this is a very timely book, because |
| 1:24.9 | couldn't we all use a little bit more bravery? So I hope that you |
| 1:30.0 | enjoy my conversation with Jill Schollman about the bravery effect as much as I enjoyed talking to her. This is the Terry Cole show, and as you might have guessed, I'm your host, Terry Cole. |
| 1:51.2 | For over two decades, I've been a licensed psychotherapist, love and boundaries expert, |
| 1:56.0 | and I'm also the founder of the Real Love Revolution and Boundary Boot Camp. |
| 2:00.2 | On this show, I'll bring you simple |
| 2:01.9 | strategies based on practical psychology, inspiring expert interviews, and my own insights and observations |
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