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The History of Literature

800 Shakespeare in Jest (with Indira Ghose) | My Last Book with Nicholson Baker

The History of Literature

Jacke Wilson

History, Arts, Books

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 May 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

It's Episode 800! Jacke celebrates the milestone by talking to Shakespeare scholar Indira Ghose about her book Shakespeare in Jest, which draws fascinating parallels between Shakespeare's humor and the things we still find funny today. PLUS Jacke tells his two favorite Shakespeare jokes. AND Nicholson Baker (Finding a Likeness: How I Got Somewhat Better at Art) stops by to discuss his choice for the last book he will ever read. The music in this episode is by Gabriel Ruiz-Bernal. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠gabrielruizbernal.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Help support the show at ⁠⁠patreon.com/literature⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠historyofliterature.com/donate⁠⁠. The History of Literature Podcast is a member of Lit Hub Radio and the Podglomerate Network. Learn more at ⁠⁠thepodglomerate.com/historyofliterature⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The History of Literature Podcast is a member of the Podglomerate Network and Lit Hub Radio.

0:09.4

Hader, it's your big McDonald's hunger calling, and it's not just any kind of hunger.

0:14.0

It's the kind that calls for Big Arch.

0:16.0

Start with juicy beef, cheddar cheese, and big arch sauce.

0:19.3

Oh, and don't forget those crispy onions.

0:21.6

Hungry?

0:22.3

You are now.

0:25.5

Saved from 11 a.m., subject to availability.

0:27.7

Price and participation may vary.

0:33.7

Hello, today on the podcast is episode 800.

0:37.6

We talked to the delightful Indira Ghosh about the humor in Shakespeare and what it means.

0:44.2

I share two of my favorite Shakespeare jokes or humorous anecdotes,

0:48.9

and we have my last book with Nicholson Baker.

0:52.5

That's all coming up today on the history of literature.

1:02.5

Okay, here we go. Thank you for joining me. Welcome to the podcast. I'm Jack Wilson. Episode 800.

1:08.8

I knew I wanted it to be special. That's a big round number. And the episode is

1:14.9

going to be special, but let me tell you what it's not. This is not an episode where we say,

1:20.7

hey, guys, guess what? Shakespeare is actually funny. Trust us, here are 10 of his jokes.

1:26.4

Now, let me explain them all so you can see just how

1:29.0

funny they are. We have something similar coming up where we wrestle with Jonathan Swift's satire.

1:36.4

You can imagine saying, oh boy, this satire of his is really biting. He really lets so and so have it.

1:42.3

But first, a quick 10 minutes on Irish-English Relations in the early 18th century.

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