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The History of Literature

799.5 Laurie Frankel's Enormous Wings (Revisited) | My Last Book with Julie Gilbert

The History of Literature

Jacke Wilson

History, Arts, Books

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Happy Mother's Day! Jacke takes advantage of an error to revisit a conversation with novelist Laurie Frankel about her book Enormous Wings, in which an unexpected pregnancy leads a seventy-seven-year-old woman to reflect on the meaning of motherhood. PLUS Edna Ferber's biographer (and grandniece) Julie Gilbert (Giant Love: Edna Ferber, Her Best-Selling Novel of Texas, and the Making of a Classic American Film) stops by to discuss her choice for the last book she will ever read. The music in this episode is by Gabriel Ruiz-Bernal. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠gabrielruizbernal.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Help support the show at ⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/literature⁠⁠⁠ or ⁠⁠⁠historyofliterature.com/donate⁠⁠⁠. The History of Literature Podcast is a member of Lit Hub Radio and the Podglomerate Network. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠thepodglomerate.com/historyofliterature⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:09.1

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0:34.8

Hey folks, this is Jack. We're on the tour. Emma and I are somewhere in Oxford

0:39.1

at the moment, so we're rerunning some past episodes. But guess what? This one is not all that old.

0:46.2

How appropriate that episodes like people are sometimes younger than they seem. We're rerunning it

0:53.8

as a courtesy to our good friend of the show,

0:55.9

Lori Frankel, who joined us to discuss her new novel, Enormous Wings, earlier this year.

1:02.2

And I screwed up the schedule, misreading May for March, and I ran the episode two months early

1:09.5

when the book was not yet for sale.

1:12.2

I felt horrible.

1:13.8

So I said I'd run the episode again when the book was for sale.

1:17.6

And look at this.

1:19.2

What a spot on the calendar.

1:21.2

It's Mother's Day today.

1:22.6

Happy Mother's Day to all you wonderful moms.

1:26.0

And this novel, spoiler alert, is all about motherhood and what it means.

1:31.5

A very unusual mother experience, or about to be mother experience.

1:35.9

But it's always the unexpected that helps us see the familiar with fresh eyes, isn't it?

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