This is popular front, a podcast focused on the niche details of modern warfare and

underreported conflict with me Jake Hanrahan. For this episode we're speaking to Harkey.

He's an independent researcher who spends most of his time

infiltrating the group chats of the so-called ISIS brides, their prisoners currently in Al-Hull camp held there by the SDF-YPG.

And since then these female ISIS members have been soliciting donations from all over the world

so that they can pay smugglers to help them get out of Al-Holkam.

Some of them have been successful.

Harkey has been looking into their chats mostly on the telegram app.

Now obviously there is a fair bit he can't say, but he did give us some details of what

he can.

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Firstly, I want to know how did you get into this thing you've been doing where basically

you've been like infiltrating these ISIS bride like telegram networks

tell me how you first got into that.

Well, I'd have to go back some years ago for that.

I started there following around the time that ISIS started to rise. And so I started in the treating back then I'd make a soccer counts with a name

and then I start condesating with them and I got to know one of him Abu Muta who used to contact a lot of a

journalist and to spread his message and stuff like how he filled a lot of them as well at the time.

He was also a part of what they say helped kill one of the R and I saw guys in Turkey.

He pretty much ran, what you must call it like, he's at his own little sap type thing. He ran one of them and he was quite famous for it.

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