The The Oh, Welcome back to another exciting edition of The Thought Police with me and Matt Kelly of

the publisher of the new European me Mike Graham talk radio presenter and man of many

podcasts I suppose you might call me how are you Matt I'm all right thank you

mate now we are recording this on the hottest day of the year which is some

Some temperature isn't it out there 28 degrees some bearable yeah well I mean you know you might have chosen the wrong time to come back to the smoke.

Yeah, we came back to London and it is absolutely unbearable.

Yeah.

It's so throwing eggs on the bonnets of toys.

That old chestnut as they say, yeah.

Do you know what's funny as well?

I was doing a conversation today with the psychiatrist,

not because I needed to, but because we were talking about how hard it can be for some people to go back now to not just

a sort of normal life but a more normal life and seeing people again and meeting people

and talking to people in some form outside of actually just electronically

you know we're actually meeting people and because I think some people are going to find

that a bit of difficult. I know but I always have found it difficult so it's just

a little worse for me.

I'm quite happy just to just to sort of maintain a sense of isolation for the rest of my days now.

Yeah, well that's what I think is what because I've been talking to other people.

A lot of them are saying actually you know we're quite liking the the time on our own and I know you've got kids so you're not really on your own but you know the idea that you can I mean I there are parts of what I've been doing, so self isolating in my flat in London,

only seeing my, I went to see my kids last weekend for the first time, you know, and that was great.

But I didn't stay the night because, you know know we're not really supposed to be doing that yet.

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