This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

I welcome my good colleague Joseph Sternberg, member at the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal.

He's in London, significantly. We're going to speak of the BBC, but we begin with the Republican Party and the Heritage Foundation and decisions made by the director of the Heritage Foundation, Mr. Roberts, in these last days that are puzzling about decisions about the whole of the party being made by people watching this brouhaha.

Joe takes us to the 20th century to a challenge to the party now in the ruling coalition in Germany, the CDU-CSU.

But once about a time, the CDU, CSU was threatened, was attached to threatened and puzzling what to do with the fringe right in the 20th century, which you can shorthand as neo-Nazi.

That was then, but there's a lesson here that Joe is found in its most recent column

at the Wall Street Journal. Joe, a very good evening to you. What did we learn, what can we learn

from the way that the C-D-U-CSU handled the threat of being accused of being unacceptable,

fringe right neo-Nazi. Good evening to you.

Hey, John. Well, I mean, I think that the big issue that American conservatives are

grappling with at the moment is that there does appear to be a radical fringe developing that

is kind of the barbarians who are starting to bang on the rightward

gate of the conservative movement.

I mean, the controversy in the U.S. in the past week or so is concerned in an interview

in late October.

The podcaster Tucker Carlson did with a dude named Nick Fuentes, who espouses a lot of really vile, racist, anti-Semitic,

misogynistic views.

And there's a concern about, you know, what kind of following or movement that might

represent out in the broader country and, you know, what relationship

that should have to the mainstream conservative movement.

And I think that Kevin Roberts, the president of the Heritage Foundation, stumbled into this

in exactly the wrong way when his first response was to suggest, basically,

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