Ah, social media. We all love to hate it. And yet we can't stay away from this toxic playground.

But on today's show, Ben Trenda thinks he can crack this cantankerous social media conundrum wide open with his

startup good talk. Ben says he's figured out how to stop the trolls and create

meaningful one-on-one conversations for all to enjoy.

Investors, well, they like Ben's vision of making social media better for everyone,

but if you strip away the bad, you might lose the things that people really like about social,

and it'll never get off the ground.

From Gimlet, this is the pitch.

I'm Josh Muccio. Today's investors are.

I'm Soraya Darby.

Soraya is a founding partner at Trail Mix Ventures,

and she invested in a little startup

you may have heard of called Gimlet.

I'm Charles Hudson.

Charles started precursor ventures where he's invested 45 million and over 100 startups to date.

I'm Sarah Downey.

Sarah's a partner at Accomplice and they've invested 600 million in over 200

startups so far. One example, a company called Draft Kings.

I'm Michael Hyatt.

Michael built and sold two software companies

for over $500 million, and now he invests for himself.

I'm Phil Nadell.

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