Hi, this is Jennifer Gonzalez welcoming you to episode 8 of the Cult of Pedagogy Podcast.

In this episode I talked to writer Jose Wilson about how teachers can best respond in their

classrooms to the aftermath of the shooting death of Mike Brown and Ferguson Missouri.

I have recorded this intro about three or four times now because I am trying to, every

time I listen to my conversation with Jose I realize how little I actually knew about

this case before I talk to him.

And I tend to shy away from discussions of current events because I'm always afraid I'm

going to reveal my ignorance about something.

And that definitely happened a few times when I talk to Jose.

It's a, I'm embarrassed to admit it but I'm going to go ahead and do it because I think

it's useful to maybe other people out there.

But I don't think I even realized that there wasn't really a full trial of Darren Wilson.

I kind of saw this whole thing very similarly to the Travon Martin case.

I figured that they were in some sort of a trial and then it came out that he wasn't going

to be, you know, penalized.

And so even though I kept hearing the word indictment and Darren Wilson isn't going to be indicted,

I really didn't dig very deeply into the case.

And I think I, as a news consumer, even have gotten pretty anesthetized to hearing these

types of stories and having a pretty good idea of what the outcome is going to be including

the riots and the looting and the protests.

And so I think it was so valuable to talk to Jose because it made me realize that depending

on what perspective you're coming from, you're more or less likely to dig deeper into

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