Welcome to the art of accomplishment, where we explore how deepening connection with ourselves and others leads to creating the life we want with enjoyment and ease.

In our last episode, we began by exploring Joe's childhood and family life.

We now continue with the second half of that conversation, getting into how Joe encountered many of the

concepts and tools we talk about in the podcast and incorporate into the courses. Please enjoy.

So how did your relationship to that sort of that heroin hit moment of those eight seconds of

oneness shift over all this period of time.

Like I'm hearing you now describe that you got into all this work and you did like Hoffman process and everything you could find just seeing what tools worked for people and

trying them.

But what was your relationship to the goal or goallessness of your search?

And how was that shifting? Yeah, so there was like,

so my mind, it was like, there was, there was, I, the main drive was I'm not good enough. And if I'm awake,

if I'm awake like that, I'll be good enough all the time.

Like that was kind of the thought process.

And so my, a lot of my work center, and because I was very head driven, a lot of my work

centered on awakening through like non-dual meditation.

And so I'd say half of it was really deeply in that,

was deeply entrenched in that.

And so it started,

what it just did was it filed down the fight in me.

Over time,

the more I meditated,

the less I was fighting with myself.

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