Today's interview was with my dear friend Jen, blogger, model, and mom of two beautiful twin girls.

Jen helps me understand what it's like to be a NICU mom after her twins were born at 30 weeks and spent three months in the NICU.

She walks me through what those days were like, the many highs and lows, and teaches me some really helpful things like nickew etiquette and what helped them

the most during that challenging time. We relive all of it and I can't wait to share her

intense and beautiful journey of bringing these two babies home with you guys today.

Okay, I'm here with my dear friend Jen Hawkins, who, hi, Jen, who I've known for a really long time.

I mean, 10, 11-ish years.

Yeah, we met, I think, right around the time you and Neil met, actually.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, it was a couple months after because I still remember where I met you.

We did a sub for Santa.

Well, Neil and his friends did a sub for Santa at his house.

It shows what kind of guy he is.

It really does, though.

That's kind of fitting that that's how I met you guys was just sub for Santa.

Well, and you, you came and supported and helped with that, and that's how we met.

And just became really good friends while we

were yeah both working professionals navigating single life well I guess you and you

had just met but yeah we were dating life yeah dating life that's a better way to put it living in salt

lake yeah and I remember we became friends really fast like you were an really easy person to become friends with.

And I don't know, I'm going to brag for a second that I was someone who benefited from your deal hunting before the blog existed.

Oh, that's nice, Jen.

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