Hey good morning, welcome. How you doing? So Jack is not here today. He will be back. He's dealing with a line.

And I am disappointed that he is not here for a number of different reasons in no particular order. I have to work harder when he's not here.

Get that out of the way. Number two, I actually enjoy talking to Jack about what's happening in the world every day. It's a lot of fun.

And the third reason in particular, I wish Jack was here today is because of our next guest.

Can Cole say long time and highly respected executive in news radio and talk radio on the west coast of the United States.

And and and can actually got his start in radio as I recall in free form album rock on the east coast. So is like both Jag and me music free a music free from way back.

And most notably as far as I'm concerned, he's the guy who hired us for our first talk radio gig 20 years ago. And he joins us now. Can how are you?

Joe can Cole here. Didn't you get you get the memo about birthdays and anniversaries on the air?

Can call is also a guy who will do a can call imitation.

Oh man, how are you old friend? Great. Just great. Great. What year? How great you guys are doing?

Well, you know what? It's it's a one day at a time thing is you know the minute you decide you're entitled to your audience, you're doomed.

Yes. And so we just keep grinding. Ken is currently, by the way, AT&T content and technical integrations online social mobile apps radio and TV supporting sales production. Wow, that sounds like a hell of a gig.

Well, you know, we made the transition out of Sacramento to San Francisco for CBS for a crazy talk radio format. Some of you nine or ten of you will remember three FM, which lasted a very short period of time.

And yeah, wound up getting involved with an old buddy of mine who we both worked for, I think Jimmy DeCastro.

And through a series of acquisitions wound up at direct TV with a radio show that Ant Patrick show. And then AT&T purchased direct TV.

And now we're part of this monstrous AT&T entertainment group involved specifically with creation of original content, both radio, television and a ton of digital as well.

Excellent. And that's great.

Enough about you. Let's talk more about me and Jack. So this is Jack's opening question. He's not here, but here it is. Did you hire us because you heard something promising or because we said yes for such a small amount of money or because it was a dying station.

So what difference did it make or all three all of the above.

But but primarily I heard that there were two guys on a music station who were just talking to damn much.

Oh yeah, I figured if you were talking too much on the music station, you probably had something to say.

And thought we'd give it a try and since it was such a low-dow deal, yeah, we were we were all over it.

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