Welcome to Radical Personal Finance, a show dedicated to providing you with

knowledge, skills, insight, and encouragement you need to live a rich and meaningful

life now while building a plan for financial freedom in 10 years or less. My

name is Josh Rashid since today I am here with Olena Livermore. Is that right?

Yeah. How do you say it? Yeah, that's right.

Olena Livermore. Yeah, you were good at it. Perfect, perfect. Olena and I were on a

panel together, a panel discussion on how to choose where to live here at

Nomad Capitalist Live. Olena, I thought you just had such an interesting story

that I wanted to just share it with my audience and talk briefly a little bit

about your story. So you were born and raised in Ukraine, is that right? Yes, that's

right. I was born in Ukraine and basically I grew up there and went to

university there in eastern bottle Ukraine. Okay. Then it's Cregion. But yeah, you

left Ukraine unexpectedly. What happened? Well, now I've been moving around but I

had never planned that. I always wanted to settle down in Ukraine and

then Yenskbut in 2014 this conflict started like the war started and I had no

choice but leave. Okay, so 2014 there was a war. Who was the war with? Well, it's

at first it was like really big and no one could understand what's going on

because you know in Ukraine they passed this law about the language because in

eastern part of Ukraine people speak Russian mostly and well I'd say that most

people speak Russian in Ukraine and west of Ukraine they speak Ukrainian and

then they part the language that you have to speak Ukrainian. Okay. In eastern

part of Ukraine lots of people were really angry about that and we're so used

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