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People I (Mostly) Admire

79. Solar Geoengineering Would Be Radical. It Might Also Be Necessary.

People I (Mostly) Admire

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4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2022

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

David Keith has spent his career studying ways to reflect sunlight away from the earth. It could reduce the risks of climate change — but it won’t save us.

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0:00.0

My guest today, David Keith, is among the world's experts on the subject of solar radiation

0:10.8

management, also known as solar geoengineering.

0:13.8

He's a professor of applied physics at Harvard and co-founder of Harvard Solar geoengineering

0:19.5

research program.

0:21.2

Solar geoengineering is a very tempting thing because if you want quick reduction in real

0:26.0

harms to some of the world's porous ecosystems, it might achieve it.

0:30.3

But on the other hand, it's absolutely true that if the world just chose to embrace solar

0:34.6

geoengineering and forgot to cut emissions, we are screwed.

0:40.1

Welcome to People I mostly admire with Steve Levin.

0:45.7

There are few areas of science that are as controversial as geoengineering.

0:51.4

Supporters believe it could be a valuable tool for fighting climate change, but opponents

0:55.5

say it's dangerous, unproven, and will weaken the will of society to take the other hard

1:00.9

steps required to save the planet.

1:03.6

In January of this year, over 60 scientists signed an open letter calling for a complete

1:09.0

prohibition on government funding for solar geoengineering research and a total ban on

1:15.9

outdoor experiments in this area.

1:19.8

I discovered firsthand just how sensitive the topic of geoengineering is when Stephen

1:25.8

Dubner and I wrote about it in our book, Super Freakonomous.

1:29.1

Now, I've taken many controversial and unpopular stances over my career, but nothing I've

1:34.8

ever written has generated as much of a negative firestorm as the suggestion that geoengineering

1:41.4

might play an important role in fighting climate change.

1:44.2

Now, that was over a decade ago.

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