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People I (Mostly) Admire

78. Giving It Away

People I (Mostly) Admire

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Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Billionaire John Arnold is figuring out how to do as much good as he can with his wealth. It takes hard work, risk tolerance, and a lot of spending.

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0:00.0

My guest today is billionaire philanthropist, John Arnold.

0:08.0

You've probably never heard of him, but he and his wife, Laura, have quietly given away

0:12.9

more money over the last decade than just about anyone else on the planet.

0:18.9

More and I were in a stronger agreement that we didn't want to give a significant part

0:23.3

of our money to the kids, and so then the next question is, what are we going to do with

0:27.7

it?

0:30.7

Welcome to People I Mostly Admire, with Steve Levitt.

0:37.7

John Arnold was, at one point, the youngest self-made billionaire in the world.

0:41.9

But at the age of 37, he walked away from money-making to focus full-time on giving his fortune

0:48.2

away.

0:49.2

He's definitely not flashy, but he's one of the most thoughtful, insightful people

0:53.8

I've met.

0:54.8

And I say that about him, even though he has rejected every grant proposal I have ever

0:59.8

submitted to him for funding, every single one.

1:07.8

So before we talk about your second career as a philanthropist, I'd like to touch just

1:12.0

a little bit on your first career.

1:14.1

Straight out of college, you joined Enron, and by 2001, five years later, by some accounts

1:20.0

you were the most successful trader in America.

1:23.3

You personally netted Enron to $750 million in profits trading natural gas that year.

1:30.2

That's the year ironically that Enron declared bankruptcy.

1:33.8

You received the highest yearly bonus that Enron ever paid, $8 million, which is tiny

1:39.3

really when you think about it compared to the $750 million that you generated.

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