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Darknet Diaries

79: Dark Basin

Darknet Diaries

Jack Rhysider

True Crime, Technology

4.98.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2020

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

What do you do when you find yourself the target of a massive hacking campaign, and you are getting thousands of phishing emails and someone following you in your car. You might turn to Citizen Lab who has the ability to research who is behind this and help bring the hackers to justice. Our guests this episodes are Adam Hulcoop and John Scott-Railton of Citizen Lab. This episode also has an interview with Matthew Earl of Shadowfall. Sponsors Support for this show comes from LastPass by LogMeIn. LastPass is a great password manager but it can do so much more. It can setup 2FA for your company, or use it to monitor what your users are doing in the network. Visit LastPass.com/Darknet to start your 14 day free trial. Support for this show comes from Blinkist. They offer thousands of condensed non-fiction books, so you can get through books in about 15 minutes. Check out Blinkist.com/DARKNET to start your 7 day free trial and get 25% off when you sign up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Good versus evil. This is something I think about a lot. And I've come to the conclusion that it's not a fair fight.

0:07.1

The good team has virtues such as ethics and morals and tries to do with right.

0:12.4

The evil team by definition lacks virtues. They have no problem breaking the law or playing dirty to complete their objectives.

0:21.1

But the good team will uphold the law. And so if you have an evil hacker in the world

0:26.4

they're not going to play fair or with morals to accomplish their mission.

0:30.7

The Quinded to deceive lie, cheat, threaten, break laws and be reckless.

0:36.3

It doesn't matter what it takes for them to be successful. And the hackers on the good team don't do that stuff.

0:42.9

They're accountable, responsible, honest, considerate and strive to have excellence and all that they do.

0:50.2

And to me, this means it's not a fair fight. One side fights dirty and acts in bad faith and can't be trusted.

0:58.2

All the other can't fight like that. Since their hands are tied to morals and integrity.

1:04.2

But as you get into the weeds, it's so hard to figure out who's good and who's evil.

1:09.2

And what's right and what's wrong? Sometimes you have to break the law to do what's right.

1:13.2

Sometimes good people just don't know they're breaking the law.

1:16.2

Because there's so many stupid laws out there that just should be removed.

1:20.2

And sometimes there's good people with good intentions, but their actions have horrible consequences.

1:26.2

There's also people who seem to be evil, but they're just misunderstood.

1:31.2

What they're doing might be controversial or really hard.

1:35.2

But they know someone has to do it to make the world right.

1:40.2

But with all that said, I still believe this story is about how a bad company hired an evil group to hack into good people.

1:54.2

These are true stories from the dark side of the internet.

1:58.2

I'm Jack Recyder. This is Dark Net Diaries.

2:20.2

We've got a very different kind of sponsor for this episode. My first million.

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