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Hey, it's Francis. You probably know that spices used to be among the most valuable goods on earth.

So how'd they go from that to just being dusty jars in any old store?

Check out this episode from last year, talking with two of the best new school spice merchants.

I'm Francis Lamb, and this is The Splend Table from APM.

So like nine times out of ten when I'm talking to someone who is just learning how to cook,

they always want to ask something like, oh, what spices should I really get?

And it's kind of funny because, you know, in my own cooking, I kind of have to say it, but I don't often use spices unless I'm following the recipe. Like, it's just not my instinct.

So I'm always curious about why beginning cooks want to ask about spices. And I think it's

because spices have become

synonymous with the idea of flavor, right? And that's probably a holdover from, I don't know,

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