There's more than one way to swing for anatomous fish.

From single-hand raws to space setups, from surface flies to wet flies, from riffle hitches

to bombers and muddlers.

Today we're taking it back to Atlantic salmon as we head into Newfoundland to learn how

they do it and how you can boost your chances with salmon, trout, and steelhead this season. This is the Wet Fly Swing podcast where I show you the best places to travel to for fly fishing, how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for that big trip, and what you can do to get back to the fish species we all love. Les Wenzel, founder of Mountain Water Resort, and our guide on this year's big trip is going to break down how he chases salmon on Portland Creek.

You're going to hear why a Wi-Fi signal is the perfect analogy for covering water for Atlantic salmon.

What to do the moment you get a hookup if you see that fish and why a dead, straight cast can make or break your day.

We're also going to get Les's leader formula. We always love the leader

formula. This is definitely

keeping it simple

and is the secret weapon.

All right, let's do this. Here you is

Les Wensel from mountain waters

resort.ca.

How you doing, Les?

Doing great, Dave. Thanks for putting this together today. We are, it's exciting because we're getting closer.

The closer the year goes on, the closer that we get to getting up to the lodge.

I'm going to be there in June, kind of later in June, which is exciting.

It'll be my first time.

I've talked a lot about Atlantic Sam. I'm going to have some great anglers on but never done it, so It'll be my first time. I've talked a lot about Atlantic salmon and have some great anglers on, but never done it. So this will be my first time. We're going to talk about that trip today, you know, and give some people some tips for swinging flies and all that. Before we jump into it with Mountain Waters Resort and everything you guys do there, take us back to fly fishing. I want to hear the initial story. When did you get started?

Were you, I know Rod got started when he was a youngster. How about you?

I got started now into the salmon as such when I was just a kid about Rod's age. I guess I was more

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