I'm not pulling out of my driveway.

We all know what that means.

It's time for another drive-to-work, coronavirus edition.

Okay, so one of the things I've done while at home is doing interviews with lots of people who work on magic and or community people on magic.

But today I have someone who's worked on magic for quite a while now, Ken Nagel.

So, Ken, welcome. Thanks for having me, Mark,

and this not drive-to-work podcast. Yes, and they drive to my den. Okay, so I'm going to start with the question I've been asking everybody. How did you get into magic? Well, I was 14 or so. This is right in the time

between middle school and high school. And the summer classes offered were Driver's Ed and

PE. And so for Drivers Ed, we kind of sat around on the floor watching videos,

but some people were playing cards on the floor.

And when I took a closer look, they weren't, you know, Jackson Kings.

They were angels and demons, things like that. And I'm pretty sure the first card i ever picked up was a

fallid from fallen empires uh so i looked and said this isn't a jack of hearts what what is this

crazy thing and every single card was something else equally crazy so from there we passed the time in

the super boring driver's ed class by playing with someone else's magic cards and this is a time when

uh every deck was just all the forests and all the green cards that's a deck all the red cards and all the

mountains that's a different deck uh so for to give people some sense what set was out what round

wind was this fallen empires i'm pretty sure was the latest set and it was before uh ice age

okay so okay so we're talking 90.

The first booster pack I ever purchased for the Ice Age booster pack.

Right.

This is 94.

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