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Alright, well if you listen to the episode of David McCraney, you heard me mention at

the beginning that I'm splitting out the roleplay conversation into this separate episode.

So if you want some context for what the heck are we doing here?

Definitely listen to that episode first.

That's episode 780 How Binds Change and How to Change Minds with David McCraney, which

would be right next to this episode in your podcast at player chronologically speaking.

And this is kind of fun.

I roleplay a character who is skeptical about some climate stuff and we hear how David

would work the process in terms of going about some persuasion.

Let's say you are the systematic epistemologist.

I am the person on the other side.

I'm just going to roleplay.

I don't know.

Let's say I am skeptical about climate change and you want to change my mind.

Cool.

And like since we've already talked all this time, we've established rapport.

But if this was like, yeah, if it wasn't that way, I would just ask you like, you know,

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