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Coaching for Leaders

777: How to Help Employees Handle Tough Moments, with Anthony Klotz

Coaching for Leaders

Dave Stachowiak

Management, Careers, Business

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Anthony Klotz: Jolted

Anthony Klotz is an organizational psychologist and Professor of Management at the UCL School of Management. He is the person who both predicted and coined the term “The Great Resignation,” and his groundbreaking research on quitting, work design, and employee performance has made him a leading voice on the future of work. He is the author of Jolted: Why We Quit, When to Stay, and Why It Matters (Amazon, Bookshop)*.

Most of us have attempted to support an employee dealing with a tough career moment. Not all the time, but certainly sometimes, we see those moments coming. When an employee is dealing with a big jolt – or about to – this conversation with Anthony will show you how to help.

Key Points

  • Jolts have an outsized influence on people’s overall relationship with their work.
  • Managers play a deciding role in how people respond to jolts and are in the best position to insulate the negative effects and amplify the positive effects.
  • Managers can often anticipate and predict jolts to employees. The plans leaders have often become the jolts that others experience.
  • If people can make sense of a jolting event, they are better able to deal with it constructively.
  • The perception of how fair an event is and how fair the process was leading up to the event massively impacts how people perceive it.
  • A clear explanation of why change is happening and what it means can substantially minimize the negative effects of career jolts.
  • The tendency for organizations to delay bad news often is counterproductive to helping managers and employees navigate jolts.
  • Partnership with others (managers, friends, family members) helps most of us better process what we might otherwise attempt to do alone.

Resources Mentioned

  • Jolted: Why We Quit, When to Stay, and Why It Matters (Amazon, Bookshop)* by Anthony Klotz

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Most of us have attempted to support an employee who's dealing with a tough career moment.

0:06.0

Not all the time, but certainly sometimes, we can see those moments coming.

0:11.0

When someone's dealing with a big jolt, or they're about to, this episode will help.

0:17.1

This is Coaching for Leaders, episode triple seven.

0:21.1

Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential.

0:29.3

Greetings to you from Orange County, California.

0:32.7

This is Coaching for Leaders, and I'm your host, Dave Stahofiak.

0:37.3

Leaders aren't born. They're made.

0:39.9

And this weekly show helps leaders thrive at key inflection points. One of the inflection points

0:45.2

that happens for all of us in our careers is something called a jolt. We're going to talk

0:50.2

about it today in this conversation. And most significantly for leaders, how we can respond,

0:57.6

support, and even insulate employees when they hit jolts in their careers. Today, a conversation

1:03.5

that will help us to do that better, lead more effectively, and of course, be even more helpful

1:08.8

to our organizations. I'm so pleased to welcome Anthony Klotz.

1:12.4

Anthony is an organizational psychologist and professor of management at the UCL School of Management.

1:17.6

He is the person who both predicted and coined the term the Great Resignation, and his groundbreaking research on quitting, work design, and employee performance has made him a leading voice on the future of work.

1:29.5

He is the author of Jolten, Why We Quit, When to Stay, and Why It Matters.

1:35.7

Anthony, so wonderful to have you on the show.

1:38.7

Thank you, Dave. It's great to be here.

1:40.4

This is a fascinating book. The research fascinating, and I'm so excited to get into this because there's so many implications for leaders.

1:49.6

Before we get into some of those, though, the obvious question is the title of the book Jolted.

1:56.0

What is a jolt and what's significant about it for our careers?

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