773: How to Align Your Motivation, with Nir Eyal
Coaching for Leaders
Dave Stachowiak
4.8 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 9 March 2026
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
Nir Eyal: Beyond Belief
Nir Eyal writes, consults, and teaches about the intersection of psychology, technology, and business. He is the author of two bestselling books, Hooked and Indistractable, selling more than a million copies and translated in over 30 languages. He is the author of the new book, Beyond Belief: The Science-Backed Way to Stop Limiting Yourself and Achieve Breakthrough Results (Amazon, Bookshop)*.
Most of us recognize that a huge part of what motivates us – or not – is our own thinking. In this conversation, Nir and I explore where our beliefs get in the way and how we can align them just a bit to help us move forward.
Key Points
- A sentence starting with “I am…” can be among the most dangerous in any language. Often, our beliefs limit us.
- Belief is the foundation of the motivation triangle that includes benefit and behavior. Yet, we often overlook beliefs.
- Curt Richter’s study of rats in the 1950s shows how an animal’s belief system can massively influence its behavior.
- The real question isn’t “Is this belief true?” but rather, “Does this belief serve me?”
- You can choose beliefs based on usefulness, not certainty.
- Difficulty may mean we are not cut out for something, but it might also be evidence of growth. Too often, we quit too soon.
- Progress comes from consistent action, not perfect plans.
Resources Mentioned
- Beyond Belief: The Science-Backed Way to Stop Limiting Yourself and Achieve Breakthrough Results (Amazon, Bookshop)* by Nir Eyal.
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| 0:00.0 | Most of us recognize that a big part of what motivates us, or not, is our own thinking. |
| 0:06.9 | In this episode, where our beliefs get in the way and how we can align them just a bit to help us move forward. |
| 0:14.6 | This is Coaching for Leaders, Episode 773. |
| 0:18.9 | Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential. |
| 0:27.1 | Greetings to you from Orange County, California. |
| 0:30.4 | This is Coaching for Leaders, and I'm your host, Dave Stahoviac. |
| 0:34.8 | Leaders are born, they're made. |
| 0:37.2 | And this weekly show helps leaders thrive |
| 0:39.5 | at key inflection points. All of us hope and wish to be the kind of people who are |
| 0:46.7 | motivated, consistently moving forward on the things that are most important to us and not get |
| 0:52.3 | in our own way. And yet, of course, we know that that is |
| 0:55.8 | a ongoing challenge for all of us on really getting to the results we want to get to. |
| 1:00.6 | Today, a conversation on how to stop limiting ourselves so we can really get to where we want |
| 1:06.4 | to go and keep ourselves motivated along the way. I'm so pleased to welcome back to the show, |
| 1:11.3 | NIR AOL. Near writes, consults, and teaches about the intersection of psychology, technology, |
| 1:17.1 | and business. He's the author of two best-selling books, hooked and indestructible, |
| 1:22.3 | selling more than a million copies and translated in over 30 languages. He is the author of the new book, Beyond Belief, |
| 1:29.6 | the science-based way to stop limiting yourself and achieve breakthrough results. Near, |
| 1:34.6 | such a pleasure to have you back. Welcome. Hi, Dave. Great to be back. Thank you for having me. |
| 1:38.9 | I came across a post that you put up recently on LinkedIn that said the two most dangerous words |
| 1:48.4 | in any language are I am. |
| 1:52.2 | And I got to thinking about that and thinking about your work and thinking about this book. |
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