This is Howell's podcast and I'm Ben Cunnington. Thanks so much for joining us. We are in the middle of a podcast series on motherhood.

I've always been having some conversations on motherhood with a few friends of hers and last week she had on good friend Andy Andrew from New York City.

And today we have the honor of having our great friend Lisa Bevere on. And so in just a minute we're gonna jump right into that.

But we just love Lisa and her whole family really John and all of her sons we've gotten to know over the last couple years and just really really love just who they are and Lisa and just the things that they are doing as a family is just incredible.

And so it's always an honor to get to have a chance to talk with Lisa. And so we're gonna continue on as part two of our conversations on motherhood series.

So yeah get ready and enjoy and we will see you at the end.

Okay so today I'm really excited to be joined by my friends and I call her my Italian godmother Lisa Bevere is on the podcast today.

Yes. So happy to be with you. I'm really honored. I always love you. We for those that are kind of new to the podcast Lisa and I met I was saying what was at least three years ago.

It was it was at the first wonder so I think it was almost three years ago.

And basically somebody introduced us online on Instagram. I did the shameless if anybody wants to introduce me to Lisa Bevere I'm available and then Lisa first introduced us and then you called me.

But I think I I direct message you on Instagram. I was like, hey here's my phone number let's talk. I didn't ask to talk to you. I can't I told my husband I'm like, okay what scriptures can I use on the phone.

I don't even know how to tell areas. I think we talked for you know 20, 29 minutes. You were under way to some speaking event on your way to the airport and it was literally love it for sound.

I mean I just I just loved you and really you know you can kind of fall love of somebody initially like being enamored.

But we've been live together now for a couple of years and to be honest you're still one of my favorite people.

Oh and we slept on a bus together so after that if we still like each other that's really saying something.

It's true got lost together and now.

And we got the moment right we were locked out and forgot about that.

And also getting to meet your your sons and then my boys and love you.

Yeah together the four together we both have four four boys. I just made four minutes for boys and so there's eight of us.

That's crazy. It's craziness and I always was laughing. I was talking to somebody recently on a trip and said every time I'm with Lisa, I just think if we sick and make it and look back at it.

I'm fine.

I'm fine.

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