This is Havelas podcast and I'm Havela Cuttington. I'm really excited today. We're going to do something totally brand new. We've actually never done anything like this.

We're going to do a podcast on motherhood and conversations with mothers. In fact, they're not just mothers that are just out there. They're my friends, they're my connection.

They're the people of hope that I kind of lean into to know that I can do it. Just like all of us moms meet.

So today I'm really excited to have my friend Andy Andrew with me. She's a pastor's wife for New York City, a mom of four, and well an author and a speaker, but not just that. She's one of the most authentic and passionate women that I know.

I think you're going to love her just as much as I love her. So lean in, listen in, and I'll catch you on the other side.

So today I'm really excited to have my friend. I feel like it's like we're we are twinning, but on opposite sides of the coast. And she's a wife and a mom of four lives in New York City. So Andy Andrew is with me today.

And I just want to thank you for being with me.

Thank you for having me. I love you so much.

I love you too. And I'm trying to think I think we met each other.

Well, we're oh, I know we met each other. We were in Florida. I forgot. This is the reality of having four children.

We were in Florida and we both got invited to a private meeting with Joyce Meyer.

Why are we here?

I think we both have that experience.

I mean, I didn't know what was going to be asked to be like I was trying to memorize scripture to make sure that I was going to be asked something or what your favorite page and when it

Joy says, I'm like, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I can play my free of her books.

But um,

and then Rebecca actually Rebecca lions you and I were sitting next to each other and never met each other.

And Rebecca, she asked me where I was from and I said, oh, I'm from Reading and I live at I'm from Bethel. I don't live at Bethel.

I'm from Bethel. And she was like kind of a little hesitant. And you were at the best. You're you're next to her and you like jump over you're like, I love Bethel. I love everything about Bethel.

I did. We love Chris. Chris is coming. We love you.

And it's like you totally were like my my person of like, I know I know we seem weird, but we're really awesome. And then I loved she just wouldn't stop asking questions. And then it was so fun.

It was really cool. Then we like found ourselves upstairs at the hotel room with Bianca, you and I and and another.

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