I'm not pulling out of the driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for the drive to work, coronavirus edition. So I've been doing fun interviews, and I will continue today with Jim Lynn. Say hi, Jim. Hi, everyone. Okay, so the question I always ask everybody is, how did you learn to play magic? And yours is a very interesting story. So how did you learn to play magic?

So I learned to play from Scaf Elias.

I can't remember if this was December of 1991 or January of 1992 anymore.

But Scaf and I were working to, we were going to be running a miniatures game at a local gaming convention in Philadelphia.

So we were getting together to kind of plan what we were going to do as part of that game.

And at the end of what kind of our planning, he was like, hey, I've got this cool thing to show you.

And he pulled out these

two small sets of cards. They were, I don't know, I think maybe one by two or something like they were

teeny. I mean, you know, and he said, this is a game that a friend of mine is invented. I think

you'd like it. You should play it. And so we played together. And so that was my introduction to magic. So this is,

so magic came out in August of 1993. So this is December of 1991. So this is pretty early on,

right? Richard's early playtest cards, what you're talking about was he photocopied stuff, right,

and then just cut them out?

Yeah, I don't know if he photocopied or if he printed.

I mean, all I know was they were on, you know, essentially construction paper, you know,

printed black and white, you know, with...

I was never involved in making the actual cards. So I don't know,

um, how they did it exactly. I would just get cards. I mean, um, but yeah, there was, there was,

there were these little teeny cards about, you know, uh, like said, you know, that had a little bit of text on them and like usually

to make it easier to tell remember what the card was there was some piece of you know like cartoon art

or you know image that richard had found somewhere that he put on them i think in some cases he'd

sketched something you know that kind of thing or someone sketched something i don't know like said

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