I'm not pulling on my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for another drive to work, coronavirus edition. Okay, so I've been doing a lot of fun interviews. That continues today. So I have Graham Hopkins with us. Hi, Graham. Hey, Mark. Okay, so I'll start by asking you the question that I ask all of my guess.

How did you start playing magic?

Ooh, started playing magic.

That was a long time ago.

I believe it was, I want to say it was late in 1993.

I had some friends that went to this math and science private school that they started hanging out with them one day.

They started talking about this crazy card game called Magic.

So I think a couple of days later I walked down to my local store, which was really just kind of a sports card store, which had some games, right?

And they had a box of unlimited starter decks.

And so I bought a few of those, brought them back to my friends, handed them out.

We all opened them up.

We kind of played the entire weekend.

And, like, that was the hook right okay so that i got that

amazing crawlworm that was obviously the rare like the best thing i've ever seen you know okay so

this is like 94 95 94 probably it's unlimited right um i'm not sure when that came out i think

it was like late 93, early 94.

Yeah, limited came out and to 93 beginning 94.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, so you've been at this a long time.

I want to say, yeah.

Okay, so you played Magic for a while.

Did you play Magic straight up until the first great designer search?

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