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The Terri Cole Show

764 Midlife Reinvention with Jen Hatmaker

The Terri Cole Show

Terri Cole

Relationships, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.91.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Jen Hatmaker shares her journey of how to Heal after loss and embrace new beginnings. She opens up about grief, growth, and the importance of community while navigating midlife changes and codependency. Her story is a reminder that you can Heal even in the most disruptive seasons of life.

This interview dives deep into what it means to rebuild yourself after loss, from embodying practices like meditation to setting boundaries with time and energy. Whether you're searching for ways to Heal, move forward, or find joy after loss, this episode offers tools and hope for personal growth and transformation.

Read the show notes for today's episode at terricole.com/764

Transcript

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0:00.0

Well, hello there and welcome to this episode of the Terry Cole Show. I just had the most interesting and the most fun interview with someone who I've been following on social media for years who I just love this person's vibe. You ever have that? You just see someone, you're like, I just like you. Anyway, her name is Jen Hatmaker. Many of you probably know who she is. She's the New York Times bestselling author of Feed These People for the Love and Fierce, Free and Full of Fire, along with 11 other books. She hosts an award-winning for-the-love podcast. She has a book club. She, her whole vibe, right, she wants to inspire you to be delighted

0:42.0

in life, to find hope, right, to find humor, to build connection and keep going. She's a mom of

0:48.1

five. She's got a million stories. I had her on because she has a brand new book out called

0:52.2

Awake, a memoir, which I started reading, but I'm

0:55.7

writing my book right now. So I didn't finish reading, but it was what I read. I loved.

1:02.1

It just dropped two days ago, her new book. This really is a deeply personal and provocative memoir.

1:09.1

So it's like a coming of middle age story rather than coming of age story about losing

1:13.5

what you thought defined you and discovering who you really are.

1:17.7

Wow.

1:18.3

In the two vignettes that I read, the really raw vignettes told in real time, but it spans over 40

1:24.4

years.

1:25.7

And she's just really talking about this disorienting upheaval of midlife and, you know,

1:31.2

menopause and what happened.

1:32.7

And her marriage ended.

1:34.8

It was a shocking loss of 26 years of marriage.

1:39.0

So there was a lot that went on in her life.

1:41.2

But what she's sharing in this book and what we're talking about

1:45.2

in this interview is what happens when it all gets burned down, right? What happens on the other

1:53.5

side of the breakdown is where the breakthrough is. So I really hope that you enjoy this interview with my new bestie,

2:02.4

Jen Hatmaker, as much as I enjoyed interviewing her. The book is called Awake. It looks like

2:07.2

that. A memoir by Jen Hatmaker.

2:24.5

This is the Terry Cole show, and as you might have guessed, I'm your host, Terry Cole.

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