761: Notice Disruption and Innovate Through It, with Steve Blank

Coaching for Leaders

Dave Stachowiak

Education, Business, Management, Self-improvement, Careers

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🗓️ 1 December 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Steve Blank: Blind to Disruption

Steve Blank is an Adjunct Professor at Stanford and co-founder of the Gordian Knot Center for National Security Innovation. Credited with launching the Lean Startup movement and the curriculums for the National Science Foundation Innovation Corps and Hacking for Defense and Diplomacy, he’s changed how startups are built, how entrepreneurship is taught, how science is commercialized, and how companies and the government innovate. Steve is the author of The Four Steps to the Epiphany and The Startup Owner’s Manual and is the author of his recent article at steveblank.com: Blind to Disruption: The CEOs Who Missed the Future.

Leaders may see the future coming, but we aren’t always incentivized to act on it. In this conversation, Steve and I discuss what we can learn from the common patterns of disruption so we don’t miss what’s next.

Key Points

In the 1890s, there were approximately 4,000 carriage and wagon makers in the United States. Only one company made the transition to automobiles.
In each of the three companies that survived, it was the founders, not hired CEOs, that drove the transition.
Studebaker recognized that it wasn’t in the business of carriages; it was in the business of mobility.
Clayton Christensen taught us that disruption begins with inferior products that incumbents don’t take seriously.
The real problem isn’t that companies can’t see the future. It’s that they are structurally disincentivized to act on it.
Parsing innovation theatre vs. innovation means paying attention to what’s actually shipping. If nothing is and you want to innovate, look elsewhere.
Bubbles in the market are normal. Timing may be off, but that doesn’t mean disruption isn’t happening.

Resources Mentioned

Blind to Disruption: The CEOs Who Missed the Future by Steve Blank

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0:00.0	Leaders may see the future coming, but we aren't always incentivized to act on it.
0:05.3	In this episode, what we can learn from the common patterns of disruption, so we don't miss what's next.
0:12.7	This is Coaching for Leaders, Episode 7601.
0:17.1	Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential.
0:25.3	Greetings to you from Orange County, California.
0:28.7	This is Coaching for Leaders, and I'm your host, Dave Stahofiak.
0:33.5	Leaders aren't born.
0:35.1	They're made.
0:35.7	And this weekly show helps you discover leadership wisdom
0:38.9	through insightful conversations. There's a famous line in Ernest Hemingway's book, The Sun
0:44.9	Also Rises, that asks, how did you go bankrupt? And the answer, two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.
0:53.5	So often when disruption is happening around us, there's signs that it's happening, but we don't notice it until it's already changed substantially.
1:03.2	Today, a conversation on how we can lead better through times of disruption, and I can't think of anyone better to have that conversation with,
1:11.6	than Steve Blank. I'm glad to welcome Steve back to the show today. He's an adjunct professor
1:16.4	at Stanford and co-founder of the Gordian Nott Center for National Security Innovation,
1:22.3	credited with launching the Lean Startup Movement and the curriculums for the National Science
1:26.5	Foundation Innovation Corps
1:28.0	and hacking for defense and diplomacy. He's changed how startups are built, how entrepreneurship
1:33.1	is taught, how science is commercialized, and how companies and the government innovate.
1:38.2	Steve is the author of The Four Steps to the Epiphany and the startup owner's manual,
1:42.9	and is the author of his recent article at
1:45.2	Steve Blank.com, Blind to Disruption, the CEOs Who Missed the Future. Steve, lovely to talk to
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