76% of Americans believe the country is headed in the wrong direction.

And nobody likes either of the two major party front runners. 93 W. I'm

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with the really no surprise. There's been a the pandemic probably put a sharp

spotlight on it but people don't trust their government. They believe the

government lies to them and they don't they don't think that they get a fair

shake they don't and and and since I left the Senate several years ago it you

tend to you get outside the limestone and you tend to get outside the limestone and you tend to really gravitate towards understanding

more about individuals.

It's interesting you say that because, and since you opened the door I'm going to walk through it

You've changed since you left the State House. Oh absolutely and I've been able to speak on a lot of different issues

That I did not want to because I was the caucus chairman I didn't want to step on

toes on on education issues and whatnot why because that is the we ran the Senate

where people were responsible for issues such as the Utilities Committee with me.

I talked about nuclear, I talked about, you know, coal and the future of energy in our state and our union.

And for instance, Senator Rods, who is the chairman of the education committee,

he focused on education.

So as caucus chairman, you have to, we weren't cylindered, but we were kind of a step sister.

But isn't that the part of the problem is that you feel so wed to the institution or the party or whatever that you see bull crap happen right in front of you and you go well I can't speak out on that?

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