Certainly the brain mechanisms that are associated with eating out of caloric need

are not necessarily the same ones that are associated with eating out of hedonic desire for food.

It doesn't mean that you can never, ever have one ever again.

It just means that you need to get to the point where you're not dependent on them in the chemical sense.

You know, we don't have a food reward system versus a drug reward system versus a sexual behavior reward system. We simply have a reward system in the brain.

I said it before and I'll say it again. I think it's almost harder to be addictedon and you are listening to Sigma Nutrition Radio.

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We are here at episode 76,

and this particular episode is one I've been

looking to try and arrange for quite some time now

because I'm talking with Dr. Nicole Avina,

who is a research neuroscientist

and looks at the fields specifically of nutrition,

diet and addiction in this context of neurobiology. And I think a lot of her work with her lab has

been built on some of the concepts that we talked about recently with Stefan Guine, but they take a more of a

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