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76: Analysis of the Trump Administration's "Take It or Leave It" Gaza Peace Plan. Bill Roggio and Ambassador Husain Haqqani discuss how the Trump administration proposed a "take it or leave it" Gaza victory plan, including a Board of Peace, international fina

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🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Analysis of the Trump Administration's "Take It or Leave It" Gaza Peace Plan. Bill Roggio and Ambassador Husain Haqqani discuss how the Trump administration proposed a "take it or leave it" Gaza victory plan, including a Board of Peace, international financing, and security. Ambassador Haqqani found the plan vague and a "fantasy," failing to address ground realities like disarming Hamas or the IDF's withdrawal. Bill Roggio insisted that peace is impossible under Hamas, whose charter demands Israel's removal. The vagueness makes it unclear how regional capitals like Cairo and Doha will respond, potentially allowing turmoil to continue.

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

0:10.0

The Gaza Strip, ceasefire holding is the report from the Middle East. But the ceasefire is not a resolution. What we know is the Hamas forces are said to be reorganizing at a much smaller rate than was true two years ago.

0:30.5

At the same time, the IDF controls or is said to control more than 50% of the Gaza Strip.

0:38.7

The part that is left is said to be in the hands of a contest between clans and anti-Hamas and pro-Hamas factions,

0:49.0

and then Hamas itself, which I'm told reliably as from the Atlantic magazine writer Ahmed Fuad al-Qatib is about 5,000.

1:02.5

The rest, the big number that the IDF uses for the Israeli newspaper, 20,000, consists of auxiliaries, chiefly teenagers or hangers-on, 5,000.

1:15.4

And the leadership is not the best.

1:18.0

The weapons are not the best, but it is defiant, and it's in less than half of the Gaza Strip.

1:23.9

What is to be done?

1:25.3

To allow the gunfighting to go on or to intervene in some

1:29.2

fashion where there's a vision of the future? The president of the United States has given Michael

1:33.9

Wals, the ambassador to the United Nations, a plan, victory plan, Trump plan, U.S. plan.

1:41.9

The important detail the New York Times covers in the most recent coverage

1:45.9

is that it's a take it or leave it plan. That would be consistent with the style of negotiation

1:52.3

the Mr. Trump practiced in Manhattan development for many years. I don't know whether that is

2:00.1

a make or break for the other participants as Charmalle Sheikh. I don't know whether that is a make or break for the other participants as

2:03.6

Charmelle Sheik. I don't know. But make or break, take it or leave it plan is not usually the end

2:10.1

of a negotiation. I welcome Bill Rajel, the Senior Fellow for the Foundation for the Defense of

2:15.5

Democracies, and Ambassador Hussain O'Con, a former ambassador from Pakistan of the United States,

2:20.9

now a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute,

2:23.3

to comment on what we know of the Trump, take it or leave it plan,

2:28.7

as delivered by Michael Walsh, the ambassador to the United Nations.

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