There's no question that some of our home waters and destinations for fly fishing have gotten busier since COVID.

From the east of the west to the north and south, we have definitely seen a boom in new anglers, new people out there in the country.

But there is still one for sure way to avoid these crowds and hiking into the backcountry might be the best way.

Today we have a guest that makes his living taking people into one of the most spectacular

areas in the country. And by the end of this episode, you will have a guide to catching fish

in the backcountry on the fly. This is the wet fly swing podcast where I show you the best

places to travel to for fly fishing, how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for that big trip and what you can do to give back the fish species we all love. Hey, how's it going? I'm Dave, host of the wet fly swing podcast. I've been fly fishing since I was a little kid, grew up around a little fly shop, and created one of the largest fly fishing podcasts out there. J.B. from Fish the Fly Guide Service is here today to take us into his world of Western Wyoming and beyond.

We're going to talk about the Green River, the Snake River, the backcountry waters.

We're going to find out some of his favorite backcountry patterns.

If you're going to put together a box in many places around the country, you'd probably want to have these patterns in your box. We're going to find out how to fish the soft tackle with weight and the lift. This is an interesting way if you've ever had struggled fishing soft tackles or swinging flies. We're going to talk about a new way here. And also how to approach a water if you're new to some of these smaller streams and creeks.

The best way to approach it so you don't end up stepping on fish.

Plus, we're going to get his number one mistake to avoid if you're heading out this year

and why people are riding the gondola to the top of the mountain in his hometown to eat waffles

to start their day.

All right, we're heading to the current epicenter of geology formation in the U.S. Here he is, J.B. from fish the fly.com. How you doing, J.B.? I'm doing well, Dave. Yeah, thanks for having me on the show. Yeah, yeah, this is going to be a fun one. I'm always excited because, you know, we talk a lot. You guys do everything out there. We're going to cover what you do out in Wyoming and Jackson Hole and everything there. I think today we're going to focus a little bit on the backcountry and you guys do it all. But I'm excited because I think that for especially those people that don't have a boat want to get out and explore,

I think that's a good way to do it in fly fishing.

But before we get there, let's take it back real quick on your history.

Did you get started early or when did the fly fishing come?

What's your first memory?

And then we'll talk fish the fly.

Yeah, yeah.

I guess my first fishing memories were actually like spin fishing with my my grandfather i grew up in in memphis tennessee and we used to load up in the station wagon griswold style and drive two days

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