Today we're heading to a magical land where you can swing for large migratory brown trout,

hit some of those amazing hatches, and see some big game that are unique to the countryside.

This place has been coined the Montana of 60 years ago, and today you're going to get a glimpse

into northern Patagonia so you know why this should be one of your bucket list trips. This is the wet fly swing podcast where I show you the best places to travel to for fly fishing, how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for that big trip and what you can do to get back to the fish species we all love. How's it going? I'm Dave, host of the wet fly swing podcast. I've been fly fishing since I was a little kid.

Grew up around a little fly shop and created one of the largest fly fishing podcast out there.

Ron Sorenson, Chocolate Lab Expeditions founder and Flyfishing Nerd takes us into his lodge on the Le Mae River and some of the similarities between Montana and fly fishing out of Montana

and guiding where he does his other half of the year.

You're going to find out how to skate flies out of a drift boat for big brown trouts.

We're going to find out how to hit some of the biggest hatches in this part of the world.

We're also going to find out what the Twitch and Sit is all about.

Plus we're going to hear how these 80-acre ranches started out as big sheep farms, and now are mecas of fly fishing. We're going to get into it all today, including the Chbacca fly, why you should be thinking about the Chbacca fly fishing this one this year, this half-streamer, half-surface fly. All right, it's all coming today. Here he is.

Ron Sorenson from cleefishing.com. How you doing, Ron? I'm doing great. Dave. How are you

today? Great. Great. Yeah, I'm glad you put some time together today to put this together.

We're going to talk about a couple of places that are always hot topics,

Montana, Patagonia. We've definitely had some episodes on it. It's been a little while for Patagonia,

at least. But we're going to talk about all that. We're going to get into some brown trout fishing

and whatever else we come up with today. But I first want to start with a little bit on your background.

I know we talked off air about Randall Kaufman. His name came

up. You have some connection. I know Mike Lawson as well. But take us back real quick on fly fishing.

Have you been doing this for a while or, you know, are you a little later to the game?

No. I actually, I grew up in Portland, Oregon and fly fishing with my grandfather, actually.

So around four or five years old, they would take me down to the Metolius River,

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