You are listening to the place we find ourselves podcast.

I'm Adam Young and you're about to hear my conversation with Cindy Mesmer

in which we address the simple question,

did the people who harmed me really mean to do it?

As you will hear shortly, answering this question is more important than you may realize.

Because if you are unsure about the answer to this question

or if you are convinced that your parents didn't mean to hurt you,

it will be very difficult for you to heal from your wounds.

Being clear about the intentionality of those who harmed you,

in other words, realizing that they meant to do it

is essential for you to be able to access grief and anger,

both of which are necessary for healing.

Okay, here we go.

All right, I am here with Cindy Mesmer.

Cindy, it's good to see you.

Good to see you.

Thank you for having me.

You are so welcome.

Thanks for joining us.

Say a bit about who you are,

what you spend your time doing, where you live.

Sure, I am a wife.

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