75: Manosphere Meltdowns and How Your Garden Can Make You Happy
Dig It with Jo Whiley and Zoe Ball
Persephonica
4.6 • 606 Ratings
🗓️ 18 March 2026
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Zoe & Jo have a frank and honest conversation about how Louis Theroux’s Inside The Manosphere documentary made them feel (spoiler: not good). But thankfully, the amazing gardener AND firefighter Jonny Hincks - aka @gardenwithjonny - stops by to discuss how we can all make ourselves happier by getting green-fingered. Plus, there’s a bumper crate digging featuring Harry Styles, Joshua Idehen, the HELP(2) album, the Peaky Blinders soundtrack, James Blake…and more!
Jonny’s book Garden Yourself Happy is out now - you can order it here: https://lnk.to/GardenYourselfHappy
Follow Jonny on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gardenwithjonny/
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CREDITS
Exec Producer: Jonathan O’Sullivan
Producer: Samantha Psyk
Assistant Producer: Eve Jones
Technical Producer: Oliver Geraghty
Video Editors: Cameron Laird and Jack Whiteside
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| 0:00.0 | Coming up on Dig It. This is just our reaction, the horror of watching the Louis |
| 0:04.6 | Through documentary and just not knowing how you deal with it and what we're facing. |
| 0:10.8 | I want to watch documentaries shining a light on people doing good because there are so many |
| 0:17.8 | people out there who love people who look after people. |
| 0:22.1 | I mean, my escape is my garden. I come home after a hard shift at work and I'm straight |
| 0:27.8 | outside and it's just like a relief. All of that's right after this. |
| 0:43.0 | This episode of Dig It is sponsored by Ancient and Brave. |
| 0:44.8 | Jo, can I ask you something? |
| 0:49.2 | Does everything feel a little bit full on at the moment? |
| 0:50.1 | How is life? |
| 0:52.6 | Well, it's very full on. |
| 0:53.6 | I mean, we had Christmas. |
| 1:11.6 | Then we complained that we didn't have much going on. And now all of a sudden, every day is full of something. When I look at my diary, I just can't see when I'm going to have a day free to do anything. So yeah, it's, you know, parents, kids, animals, all that sort of stuff. It's like spinning plates where somebody keeps handing you even more plates to spin. But, you know, |
| 1:17.1 | some days I like it and other days it's just a bit of a carnival. Oh, I know that feeling exactly. |
| 1:22.4 | It is brilliant and I'm so grateful to be busy, but sometimes it's just a lot. It is. And that's why I think if you have small rituals in your day, it kind of lends you to having that feeling of control. And one of |
| 1:29.3 | those is my daily scoop of Ancient and Braves wild collagen. Same. It's become a tiny ritual, |
| 1:34.8 | one scoop in my coffee in the morning. And I feel like I've done something good for myself |
| 1:39.8 | before the chaos kicks in. Yeah, it's also good thing. Collagen is not just about skin. |
| 1:44.3 | It supports joints, muscles and bone health too, which frankly we need. |
| 1:48.5 | We lose around 1% of our collagen every year after our mid-20s so soon. |
| 1:53.3 | So adding it to our daily routine makes sense. |
| 1:56.1 | Their marine collagen is sustainably sourced from MSC certified wildcought fish and it's backed by science |
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