Hi everyone and welcome to this week's Squiggly Careers podcast. I'm Sarah and I'm just about

joined by my co-host Helen who is very croaky. Helen, are you there? I am here in all of my

croaky style in, I'm in Chester and you're at home. I am. Near London, so we're at very different

places and our voices sound quite

different. So you're probably going to hear a little bit more of me today. We're sort of persevering

with our commitment to do it weekly. And this is episode 75, which I don't know why that feels like a

milestone, but it just sort of does. And today we're going to be talking all about empathy

and what empathy is, why it matters

within a squiggly career, how to think about empathy and probably most importantly, what you can

do to build and learn empathy for yourself. And I was doing some research into this because

it's an area that I found interesting for a while. And it's not like me to start with a quote,

but I'm actually going to do it this week. I almost feel like because Helen can't talk, I need to

take of her mantle. Emboddy me with my love of quotes. Yeah, and, you know, put a quote in anyway. In one of

the articles I was reading about empathy, in To Kill a Mockingbird, there's this line that says you never really understand another person

until you consider things from his point of view, until you climb inside his skin and walk around in it.

And that just really provoked to me the point around what empathy really means and what people

are talking about when they describe empathy, which is not just about understanding,

but really that kind of step further in terms of walking in somebody else's shoes.

And it's one of these things that is a real cornerstone of emotional intelligence.

And one of the things that threw me a bit is apparently 98% of people have the ability to empathise.

And then I was just thinking, so who are this 2%?

Who is the sociopaths, like people that just don't have the ability to,

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