#746: The Digital Euro Is A Trap with Matt Dines
TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast
Marty Bent
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🗓️ 16 May 2026
⏱️ 182 minutes
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Marty sits down with Matt Dines to discuss the European Union's plan to monetize private savings through a digital euro, the Warsh-Powell proxy war for the Federal Reserve, and the mounting credit risks inside Bitcoin-backed perpetual preferreds.
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| 0:00.0 | You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free. |
| 0:10.0 | If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. |
| 0:16.0 | So it's all acting like safe haven. |
| 0:18.0 | I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their |
| 0:23.5 | currency, Bitcoin wins. |
| 0:25.3 | In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. |
| 0:29.2 | I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin. |
| 0:31.9 | If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. |
| 0:36.3 | Matthew Dynes, take two. |
| 0:38.3 | We meet again a week later after our original two and a half hour recording had some technical difficulties and was unrecoverable, unfortunately. |
| 0:48.8 | Yeah, that's that was terrible. |
| 0:51.0 | It's kind of like, I don't know if this is before your time, but there's the |
| 0:55.4 | Jack Band, Jack Black Band, Tenacious Day, and their kind of their hit song, the, what's it |
| 1:02.4 | called, the most wonderful, the most famous song in the world, or best song in the world, |
| 1:07.5 | but they lost it. So, you know, the only thing they could do is give it a tribute. So, |
| 1:13.6 | yeah, we put down a good rip, two and a half hours, but we'll hope we'll condense it here |
| 1:20.6 | and, you know, make it better. And then this will be the greatest song in the world. |
| 1:25.6 | It will be. Well, let's jump right into it. It will be. |
| 1:29.0 | Well, let's jump right into it. |
| 1:33.2 | We last recorded before last week. |
| 1:35.7 | It was 18 months in the last time we talked. |
| 1:42.4 | It was about the debt restructuring that was coming to Ukraine. |
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