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TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

#746: The Digital Euro Is A Trap with Matt Dines

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

Marty Bent

Technology

4.8804 Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2026

⏱️ 182 minutes

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Summary

Marty sits down with Matt Dines to discuss the European Union's plan to monetize private savings through a digital euro, the Warsh-Powell proxy war for the Federal Reserve, and the mounting credit risks inside Bitcoin-backed perpetual preferreds.

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0:00.0

You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

0:10.0

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

0:16.0

So it's all acting like safe haven.

0:18.0

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their

0:23.5

currency, Bitcoin wins.

0:25.3

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

0:29.2

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

0:31.9

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

0:36.3

Matthew Dynes, take two.

0:38.3

We meet again a week later after our original two and a half hour recording had some technical difficulties and was unrecoverable, unfortunately.

0:48.8

Yeah, that's that was terrible.

0:51.0

It's kind of like, I don't know if this is before your time, but there's the

0:55.4

Jack Band, Jack Black Band, Tenacious Day, and their kind of their hit song, the, what's it

1:02.4

called, the most wonderful, the most famous song in the world, or best song in the world,

1:07.5

but they lost it. So, you know, the only thing they could do is give it a tribute. So,

1:13.6

yeah, we put down a good rip, two and a half hours, but we'll hope we'll condense it here

1:20.6

and, you know, make it better. And then this will be the greatest song in the world.

1:25.6

It will be. Well, let's jump right into it. It will be.

1:29.0

Well, let's jump right into it.

1:33.2

We last recorded before last week.

1:35.7

It was 18 months in the last time we talked.

1:42.4

It was about the debt restructuring that was coming to Ukraine.

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