You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

So it's all acting like safe haven.

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency,

Bitcoin wins.

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

Back Herbert, can't believe it's been six years, sir.

Yeah, the world is very different from when I last came on.

Yeah, I mean, we were just talking about it too.

I think maybe we start there as a, because of something I'm fascinated about,

and something we're just talking about it.

You've noticed that we're leaning into it. You said that you're leading to it personally.

And on the business side, that foundation, I think the AI wave that has hit over the last two years is really, I mean, just from observation and experience, it has founders thinking differently about building businesses,

particularly within Bitcoin. And I'm just curious for somebody working on a hardware

and security product, what is the best approach for you guys or how have you approached

it?

Because there's many considerations.

I feel like that your team would have to take in compared to ours, which is just media,

where we're not really securing data.

And so we can be a bit more liberal. But I feel like for you guys, it can certainly help.

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