You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

So it's all acting like safe haven.

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their

currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

Saudi, welcome to the show. Thank you for joining me.

Like I said, before we hit record, it was like we're recording the podcast already, so I figured

let's just get into this.

100%.

Well, thank you so much for having me, Marty.

I've heard so many great things about you.

We have so many mutual friends.

So I'm just excited to have this

conversation with you and get to know each other and talk about new products and talk about

even. Yeah, well, I'm, I think, more excited because I've been telling your team that

a product like you're launching today is something that many people, myself included in Bitcoin,

have been waiting for.

And it's a theme.

It validates a theme that I think is going to be predominant for the next few cycles,

which is this intersection of consumer finance and Bitcoin as collateral.

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