And I definitely operate from more of a scarcity mindset than not.

This was maybe two years ago.

I operated my computer from a lab to talk to a desk and stuff.

And it took me almost a week to unpackage it because I was honestly driving myself crazy

with like, what did I do?

I fucked up. I can't afford this.

Can I return this? Should I return it?

I was like, you know, so scared that I was like, oh my gosh, what if I can't afford a

vet bill or something else?

In my mind, it was one that almost felt really scary and irresponsible.

Even now, it sort of overwhelms me to be able to be in a place to afford nice things for myself.

You know, I came from an immigrant background.

There was never enough money seeing the stress that money played in my parents' relationship.

I feel like it was inevitable that I would run into the same thing.

I think that if you don't change anything, you will find yourself continuing to argue and to spin about money.

And it will become even more painful.

I really don't like the sound of that.

Thanks for joining me on part two of this absolutely fascinating conversation with Nate and Serena.

Now, they're both in their 20s. They're engaged and living together.

But they have a big income disparity.

Serena makes $80,000.

And Nate makes $45,000 a year today.

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