I'm not pulling on my driveway.

We don't know what that means.

It's time for other drive-to-work coronavirus edition.

So I've been interviewing people, lots of different people, and so today I have a very special

guest, someone that I worked with for many years, who, he was a longtime pro player.

So I would like to welcome Matt Place.

Hey, what's up, Mark?

Hey.

Okay, so Matt, let's start in the very beginning.

How exactly did you first learn about magic?

First learned about magic.

My little brother, Dan Berdick, who you, worked with the Wizards as well, he called me

from the comic store.

We were big into comics with kids, and he called me and said,

there's a card game here that's Dungeons and Dragons with cards.

And I didn't understand what that meant, but I knew I had to play this game.

I didn't have a card, so I couldn't get to the comic book store that day.

Eventually, you know, my dad drives us there.

We buy some cards.

It was awesome getting into the game.

We basically dove headfirst, went crazy for the game right away.

How old were you when, uh, this was?

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