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Coaching for Leaders

731: What to Do After a Layoff, with Scott Anthony Barlow

Coaching for Leaders

Dave Stachowiak

Education, Business, Management, Self-improvement, Careers

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Scott Anthony Barlow: Happen to Your Career
Scott Anthony Barlow is CEO of Happen To Your Career and host of the Happen to Your Career podcast. His team and him are focused on helping people find the work they love. He’s also the author of the book, Happen to Your Career: An Unconventional Approach to Career Change and Meaningful Work*.

You’ve been laid off, or someone close to you is navigating that reality right now. A lot of the first things we think to do after a layoff are wrong. In this episode, Scott and I explore what to avoid…and more importantly, where to begin anew.
Key Points

Most people underestimate the time it takes to mean a transition to the next, right position.
Submitting tons of applications, networking everywhere, and telling everyone that you’re looking feels productive, but is often either incomplete or a waste of time.
Give yourself the space to grieve. Spend time with the people who care about you.
This didn’t happen to you, it happened for you. Whether objectively true or not, this mindset will help you be intentional about next actions.
Hyperfocus your targeting by creating a master resume and also considering backdoors to opportunities.
Decide when to hire help by using math – how much will expertise help speed up the process and/or help you land a higher salary?

Resources Mentioned

Happen to Your Career: An Unconventional Approach to Career Change and Meaningful Work* by Scott Anthony Barlow
If Love Is a Game, These Are the Rules: 10 Rules for Finding Love and Creating Long-Lasting, Authentic Relationships by Chérie Carter-Scott

Interview Notes
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Related Episodes

Craft a Career to Fit Your Strengths, with Scott Anthony Barlow (episode 424)
How to Nail a Job Transition, with Sukhinder Singh Cassidy (episode 555)
How to Respond When You Get Triggered, with Sally Helgesen (episode 620)

Expert Partner
In this midst of a layoff? Feeling stagnant in your current role? Scott Barlow and his team may be able to help as official partners of Coaching for Leaders. To discover more about how his team can support you, get in touch on our expert partners page.
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Transcript

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0:00.0

You've been laid off, or someone close to you is navigating that reality right now.

0:06.3

A lot of the first things we think to do after a layoff are wrong. In this episode,

0:12.7

what to avoid, and more importantly, where to begin anew. This is Coaching for Leaders,

0:18.7

episode 731.

0:26.1

Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential.

0:35.1

Greetings to you from Orange County, California. This is Coaching for Leaders, and I'm your host, Dave Stahoviac. Leaders aren't born. They're made.

0:40.4

And this weekly show helps you discover leadership wisdom through insightful conversations.

0:46.2

One of the situations that many of us find ourselves in at some point in our careers is being laid off.

0:53.1

If that's the situation you're in right now, boy, I am so sorry that you're in that

0:57.0

situation.

0:58.3

And I also hope that we can share a bit in this episode that will be helpful to you, if you

1:04.6

are in that situation, could be in the future, and also the people that you support.

1:10.3

How can we do the best job possible at responding to a layoff when it happens to us or it happens to someone who's close to us, either personally or professionally?

1:20.1

I'm so glad today to welcome back to the show, an expert and a dear friend who's going to help us to navigate this uncomfortable time, just a little bit

1:28.0

better. I'm so pleased to welcome back, Scott Anthony Barlow. He is the CEO of Happened to Your

1:33.4

Career and host of the Happened to Your Career podcast. His team and him are focused on helping

1:38.8

people find the work they love. He's also the author of the book, Happened to Your Career, an unconventional

1:45.1

approach to career change and meaningful work. Scott, it is always a pleasure to talk to you. Welcome

1:50.4

back. It is always a pleasure to be here. Thank you so much for having me again.

1:55.1

Oh, my gosh, a pleasure. I was thinking about our conversation, and I saw a video you did

2:00.5

recently, and the line that stuck with me that you positioned right at the beginning of the video said, almost everything everyone tells you to do when you get laid off is wrong.

2:10.9

And I think it's because it is one of those things, one that's often unexpected, but it's such an emotional situation

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