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Intersectionality Matters!

73. The Sounds of Us

Intersectionality Matters!

Intersectionality Matters with Kimberlé Crenshaw

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4.7814 Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Music has long been central to the fight for freedom—the rhythmic heartbeat of the struggle for justice. From Beyoncé to Shaboozey to L’il Nas X and Ryan Coogler’s Sinners, Black artists have sparked a much-needed conversation about the rich legacy of Black artistic achievement in multiple genres of American music. This episode celebrates the Black roots of country, blues and folk music by bringing together a dynamic group of artists and scholars to reclaim this often ignored history. Guests: Jake Blount (Musician and Historian), Amythyst Kiah (Banjo Player and Historian), Amanda Ewing (Luthier), Tim Wise ( Writer and Racial Justice Educator), Denitia Odigie (Musician). Hosted by Kimberlé Crenshaw, produced by the team at the African American Policy Forum Sr. Podcast Producer /Mixer Nicole Edwards Find more on our show and the African American Policy Forum at ⁠aapf.org⁠ Music by Blue Dot Sessions, Beyoncé, DeFord Bailey. Follow the podcast on ⁠Instagram⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠, and ⁠Bluesky⁠ Check out our special series on the attack against CRT and DEI called ⁠United States of Amnesia: The Real Histories of Critical Race Theory Donate to our show

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0:00.0

I'm Kimberly Crenshaw, and this is Intersectionality Matters.

0:05.0

The podcast that brings intersectionality to life by exploring the hidden dimensions of today's most pressing issues,

0:13.0

from say her name to the war on woke, DEI and CRT, and the global rise of fascism.

0:20.0

This idea Trave-Log lifts up the work of leading activists, artists, and scholars, and helps listeners understand politics, the law, social movements, and even their own lives in deeper, more nuanced ways.

0:49.1

Beyonce's Cowboy Carter Tour was one of the biggest pop culture moments of the year. This ain't Texas.

0:50.3

Ain't no hold them.

0:53.3

They are cards down, down, down, down. Fans around the world standpied stadiums, all the way across the pond to London and Paris.

1:06.0

It also sparked an important conversation about genre and belonging.

1:22.4

As black folks donned cowboy hats and sang along to Beyonce's rendition of Jolene,

1:30.3

critics had questions. The biggest question was whether the album is real country music. They asked whether this black woman in boots and spurs was moonlighting in a genre that doesn't belong to her.

1:37.3

Black country artists were erased from pop culture by design.

1:41.3

One look at last year's country music awards proves this erasure is still happening.

1:48.0

Beyonce wasn't nominated despite data that shows she caused 36 million people to stream country music for the first time on Spotify.

1:59.0

Good evening, everybody.

2:01.6

Good evening.

2:02.6

My name is Dinesha.

2:04.6

And this song is called Standing in the Circle.

2:07.6

When I was growing up in Texas, I was in love with country music as a kid.

2:13.6

For black country artist Danisha, this music was the soundtrack of her childhood.

2:19.3

I was born in golden, standing on their shoulders.

2:25.3

My family, we loved country music, we went to the Houston Rodeo all the time,

2:29.3

and that's how I fell in love with songwriting, with great songs.

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