73: Russian Aggression, NATO Tensions, and the Specter of 1914. Gaius and Germanicus, hosting the Friends of History Debating Society in Londinium, discuss the future of the Roman Empire's inheritor, the United States, and its empire in the 21st century. The
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| 0:00.0 | This is the Friends of History Debating Society. |
| 0:08.0 | I am Gaius in Lunditian. |
| 0:10.0 | Germanicus is here with me. |
| 0:12.0 | The Centurians are pulling their chairs up for another entertaining round of what is going to come |
| 0:17.0 | of the Roman Empire in the 1st century AD, that is either substantial or fleeting or dangerous |
| 0:25.5 | in the 21st century AD in the inheritor of the Roman institutions, the United States of America, |
| 0:32.3 | and its empire. That is the question we put before the Centurians. Remember, they're heartened, their 25 years of service. |
| 0:41.3 | They're now living in Lunditian on lands that they've bought and they farm. |
| 0:47.3 | That service is meant to be sustaining the empire, and they want to know that 21, 2,000 years from now, it will still be honored |
| 0:57.2 | and we believe it will be. But what we've discovered over the last years in this conversation |
| 1:04.5 | we have by the Thames, which is extremely turbulent in that. I wouldn't want to cross that |
| 1:10.6 | Thames in a small boat. |
| 1:12.4 | Very choppy, wintry-like. |
| 1:15.2 | Conditions are various any day, any hour of the day. |
| 1:19.4 | In any event, by the Thames in Lundidium, |
| 1:23.5 | we believe that the institutions will hold up in the 21st century and they're now coming under extreme challenge. |
| 1:33.3 | Germanicus, the challenge is outside the borders of the United States and inside. |
| 1:40.3 | We'll start with outside because we've been following the Russian aggression against Ukraine for years. |
| 1:49.1 | The episode that most strikes me now is not what will happen in the Ukraine. |
| 1:55.0 | It's what's happening along the NATO frontier. |
| 1:58.4 | I'm told reliably again and again that any provocation such as the shoot |
| 2:06.9 | down of a Russian warplane or the blockading of the Russian shadow fleet will put Mr. Putin in a |
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