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No Stupid Questions

73. Is It Okay to Engage in “Social Loafing”?

No Stupid Questions

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Society & Culture

4.63.7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Also: why is it so great to be part of a team, even when you lose? This episode originally aired on November 7th, 2021.

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0:00.0

whipped cream and nuts on top somebody go grab a marasino cherry i'm angela duckworth i'm stephen

0:09.6

and you're listening to no stupid questions today on the show why should you exert yourself

0:16.9

if you can get other people to do the work for you. You're a bad, bad person.

0:21.8

I'm a terrible person.

0:23.3

Also, Stephen shares a special moment of appreciation.

0:27.4

I like team Duckner, Dubworth.

0:33.3

Angela, I want to ask a question related to something we discussed not long ago on this very show.

0:39.3

We were talking about meetings, how bad they often are, how so many meetings are dominated by noisy people.

0:47.1

We talked about the, quote, right size of a given meeting.

0:50.6

But one thing we didn't get to is the idea that meetings can be good for what

0:55.3

economists call free riders, meaning you go along for the ride while someone else is doing the work.

1:01.3

Yeah. So let's say you and I and six other people are in a brainstorming meeting. And I know that

1:06.9

you, Angie, have a lot of great ideas. So I can just sit back and think about what I'm

1:11.4

going to have for dinner that night. Now, I've since learned that psychologists have a phrase

1:16.2

for this too. It's called social loafing. I like that phrase even more than free riding.

1:21.4

If I can find a way to free ride in social loaf at the same time, that's my perfect day.

1:25.7

But I do want to ask you, what exactly is social loafing?

1:30.4

Is it as wonderful as it sounds? And should I be doing even more of it?

1:35.3

Social living is when you have a group task, more than one person trying to accomplish anything, really,

1:41.4

like tugging a rope in a tug of war but also brainstorming ideas for the next product

1:47.2

in a meeting anything where there's a task that needs to be accomplished by a group of people

1:52.8

the idea of social loafing is that as an individual I will work a little less hard or sometimes a

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