Hi everyone and welcome to this week's Squiggly Careers podcast.

I'm Sarah and I'm joined by my co-host Helen.

Hello everyone.

And this is episode 73 of our Squiggly Careers podcast, continuing to explore all the ins and outs

of how to develop the skills to succeed, whatever success looks like to you in a squiggly career.

From interview skills to discovering your values, asking for a pay rise and how to manage stress at work,

which actually we were talking about right before this podcast.

So I feel like managing stress at work is one of those where it will never be ticked off the to-do list.

And actually,

I heard, as a slight aside on the stress point, I heard a lady called Carolyn Everson talk yesterday,

who's got a very senior job at Facebook. And she talked about work-life balance. And I always

think it's really fascinating to hear people talk about that sort of stuff and kind of what their

points of view on on that

art and her her perspective was you can make everything work you just can't make everything work

in the same moment and I thought that was actually a really smart way to think about it so she sort of said

look I accept that sometimes I'm fully in work and that does mean I have to make compromises elsewhere.

And then when I'm there, I'm very present and I want to be really in and kind of enjoying it.

And then I will at other times prioritize my family or making sure I'm doing exercise or those other things.

And her thing was very kind of pragmatic.

She was like in the round, as in within a week, within a month,

that you're making everything work, rather than worrying about every single day. I quite liked that.

I sort of found that quite inspiring because I feel that that's more realistic maybe.

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