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Journey Through Time

73. Chernobyl: An Explosion That Brought Down A Superpower (Ep 6)

Journey Through Time

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History

4.3595 Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Did Chernobyl cause the collapse of the Soviet Union? How did the disaster fuel the fight for independence? What happened when war came to the Exclusion Zone after Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022? How are the victims still being impacted by the violence?  Join David Olusgoa and Sarah Churchwell for the last episode in this Chernobyl series, looking at the legacy of the explosion.  Email: journeythroughtime@goalhanger.com  X: @ThroughTimePod Blue Sky: @ThroughTimePod Instagram: @JourneyThroughTimePod Social Producer: Emma Jackson Assistant Producers: Alfie Rowe, Alfie Norris  Producer: Alice Horrell Head of History: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Journey Through Time. I'm Sarah Churchill.

0:09.2

And I'm David Olishogger.

0:11.0

And this is our final episode in the story we've been telling about the Chernobyl nuclear disaster of 1986.

0:18.3

Yeah, the worst nuclear disaster in history that spread a plume of radioactivity across Europe

0:23.7

that's linked to an unknown and unknowable number of deaths. And we've talked about the

0:28.9

consequences of the disaster for the people of the Soviet Union, especially people of Ukraine,

0:34.1

where the Chernobyl plant was built. But in this episode we want to talk about the

0:38.7

legacies of the disaster, but also the consequences for the nation that had created Chernobyl,

0:44.4

the Soviet Union, a nation that obviously does no longer exist. In 2006, on the 20th anniversary

0:51.6

of the Chernobyl disaster this year is the 40th anniversary. Mikhail Gorbachev wrote

0:56.3

this. He said, the nuclear meltdown at Chernobyl 20 years ago this month, even more than my

1:02.7

launch of Perestroika, was perhaps the main cause of the Soviet Union's collapse five years later.

1:09.0

Indeed, the Chernobyl catastrophe was an historic turning

1:12.6

point. There was the era before the disaster, and there is the very different era that has followed.

1:18.6

He was right. The years after Chernobyl were the twilight years of the Soviet Union.

1:23.6

And that's because the effect of the disaster did not end neatly. The Soviet Union entered

1:30.3

what was to be its final years with the sort of criticality, a political criticality of Chernobyl

1:35.9

sort of building up within the system. Let's start at the end of 1988. By then, the Soviet Union had

1:43.2

built a sarcophagus to enclose the remains, the radioactive remains of reactor for at the Chernobyl plant, a building rushed into existence that was only to last 20 to 30 years. That name of sarcophagus spoke of a kind of permanent resting place for this nuclear poison,

2:02.7

but it was already beginning to decay and show structural weaknesses. This is because if you

2:07.7

force people to build buildings at incredible speed, they will do so by cutting incredible corners.

2:14.1

The sarcophagus in some ways was a metaphor for the Soviet Union. It was an unwieldly construction

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