Well, hello there and welcome to this episode of the Terry Cole show where I just had the pleasure of interviewing someone who's actually interviewed me twice on her show, Angie Sullivan, who is one of the co-hosts of the I've Had It podcast with Jennifer Walsh. It is a show that makes me laugh and resonates with people. And it's really blown up.

It's gotten so big. Anyway, these ladies have written a book and it's called Life is a Lazy Susan of

shit sandwiches. There's the cover if you haven't seen it. It's the book itself is actually,

I loved it. It's super funny.

I'll tell you a little bit about Angie.

She's a graduate of University of Oklahoma and Oklahoma College of Law.

So she had a law practice before she got into reality TV.

She and Jennifer had a show called, what was it called?

Sweet Home.

I think it was called it was on Bravo for two seasons.

And I think the pod was sort of born out of this. But what this book is about is

super personal stories and how they overcame them. So it's a very candid book, but it's

written with so much humor. And we talked a lot about the podcast and how incredibly popular it's written with so much humor.

And we talked a lot about the podcast and how incredibly popular it's become.

Barack Obama has been on that.

Kamala Harris has been on that.

Tons of actors have been on there.

I was like, wow, these ladies are really blowing up.

So I hope that you enjoy my conversation with Angie Pumps Sullivan as much as I enjoyed interviewing her.

This is the Terry Cole show, and as you might have guessed, I'm your host, Terry Cole.

For over two decades, I've been a licensed psychotherapist, love and boundaries expert, and I'm also the founder

of The Real Love Revolution and Boundary Boot Camp. On this show, I'll bring you simple strategies

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