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TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

#727: Orange Pilling The Deep State with David Zell

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

Marty Bent

Technology

4.8804 Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2026

⏱️ 114 minutes

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Summary

Marty sits down with David Zell, Executive Director of the Bitcoin Policy Institute, to discuss the Coinbase de minimis lobbying controversy, the battle to make Bitcoin tax reform a legislative priority, and why engaging the national security community may be Bitcoin's most durable long-term protection.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

0:10.0

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

0:16.0

So it's all acting like safe haven.

0:18.0

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency,

0:24.4

Bitcoin wins.

0:25.3

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

0:29.2

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

0:31.9

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

0:36.2

What a week in Austin, Texas, gentlemen.

0:39.2

Oh, what a week.

0:42.3

Did we do something here?

0:43.4

What do we do with this coin-based minimum tax exemption?

0:46.2

I think it's a big thing that we made some noise this week about it.

0:52.4

I think your tweet did a lot of really good stuff.

0:57.2

You know, and I'm really just honored to be here with the Alex Jones of Bitcoin.

1:02.1

Although if I had my way, it'd be the real Alex Jones, but I'll settle for the JV.

1:06.5

Hey, we're going to get Alex here.

1:09.2

Yeah, no, I think it was important for the

1:12.4

the broader Bitcoin community and bitcoiners generally particularly in America to to know that

1:20.1

this stuff's happening behind the scenes and I wasn't so I had a one source reach out last week

1:25.8

and was like okay this is interesting can't really confirm it and then I had one source reach out last week and I was like, okay, this is interesting.

1:29.5

Can't really confirm it.

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