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TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

#726: Mapping The Mind Of The Machine with Brian Murray & Paul Itoi

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

Marty Bent

Technology

4.8804 Ratings

🗓️ 14 March 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Marty sits down with Brian Murray and Paul Itoi to discuss the convergence of AI agents, graph databases as a solution to LLM memory limitations, and Bitcoin's Lightning Network as the native payment rail for the emerging agentic economy.

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0:00.0

You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

0:10.0

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

0:16.0

So it's all acting like safe haven.

0:18.0

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency,

0:24.4

Bitcoin wins.

0:25.3

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

0:29.2

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

0:31.9

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

0:36.3

I don't know.

0:37.0

We're like two months into it. I'm like, I'm going to have to set up a new one at some point because this is going to be outdated. Really? Okay. I think that, I mean, that's the conclusion I'm coming to. You can switch out the models and stuff like that, but I think the context memory is the the big problem, I think, and users like me who are technically competent need to figure out.

0:56.6

But we nail that out.

0:57.4

Sounds like a problem here for that. text memory is the big problem. I think end users like me who aren't is technically competent need to

0:55.5

figure out. Like we nail that out. Sounds like a problem you're familiar with. It sounds familiar. Yeah.

0:59.3

Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean, that feels like a good starting point. I think,

1:05.8

yeah, what would be most helpful? I think about just catching up overall on what's happening in the space and talking about the pieces. You've heard me talk about it for a long time. So can we talk about the 1031 off site we're at sometimes? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, just I got a little embarrassed getting up there and showing graph stuff just in front of everyone. I see everyone go, oh, God, Paul, another year.

1:27.8

The graph guy.

1:28.7

You got to talk about the graph, man.

1:31.1

And you had a lot of grief for graphs online because they've been tried so many times.

1:36.3

But I've worked with Neo4J since 2010, 2011, sometime around then.

1:41.4

I think they were just starting out.

1:43.2

One of our technical guys brought it into

1:45.2

the company and i hated it because it just crashed all the time so um but now 15 years later

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