You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

So it's all acting like safe haven.

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency,

Bitcoin wins.

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

Calais, it's been a year and a month almost exactly to the date

since we published our last podcast where we met in person in the jungle

and a lot has happened since then how have you been sir oh yeah i've been i've been doing

great and wow there's been a year and over a year, that's crazy.

I wish we were in the jungle again, though.

I've been looking out in 20 inches of snow. The jungle is much preferred to this.

But for anybody who's listening who didn't catch that first episode, doesn't know Calais is I'd be surprised if you don't Kelly's one of the most

prolific and active individual builders in the Bitcoin and freedom tech

ecosystem working on Bitcoin the cash you eCash protocol Claw, AI, and other open source dev projects.

You've got a PhD in physics.

And, I mean, I've been following the sparse podcast you've been doing throughout the year.

I think you were on Citadel dispatch in the summer of last year.

And you were talking about this proliferation summer of last year, and you were talking

about this proliferation of AI tools and how vibe coding helps you build the Android app for

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